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Big Charlie

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BIG CHARLIE-

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

https://youtu.be/aD8qpQ11RFM Big Charlie

https://ccoutreach87.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/3-8-17-big-charlie.zip

ON VIDEO- [Past links- verses below]

.Why are we hated?

.Gap Theory?

.Jacob wrestles

.no ‘if’s’

.Joseph

.Last Adam

.Noah

.The 1st resurrection

.I tell the story of not putting on my Cross when I left the house. In the past when this happens- I find it strange that when I run into my friends- I don’t tell them ‘I forgot my Cross’ but at times they of their own accord give me one. On the video I tell that story and show you the Cross little Charlie gave me on this day. You’ll notice when I pull out the Cross Little Charlie gave me- I do have another one on. Yes- we went to another friend’s house before I made the video- and one of the girls- who I have known for years- got up and walked over- and yes- gave me a Cross necklace she had. So I was given 2 Crosses this day [I don’t tell them ‘I forgot to put on my Cross’- they seem to know- not be seeing- I always have it under the shirt].

NEW- I ran into Andy and Charlie today- I’ve known ‘Big’ Charlie for many years- he has gone thru some hard times- like many of my friends.

I decided to do a video- and you get to hear some of the wisdom my friend has gleaned thru the years.

If I had time- I would have tried to elaborate a bit on some of the points.

Tried to have maybe given a little more balance to some of the views.

But that’s ok- I think it was better for you to hear the things from Charlie’s perspective.

You do see how some of my friends identify with the characters in scripture- maybe in ways the average church goer has never thought about.

Jacob- Joseph- etc.

Some of the people in the bible were known for their cunning- conniving- and deceitful ways.

Yet- they were people God used- Charlie seems to have been identifying with these men of God.

My friends who have struggled with addiction- and have done these conniving things- yes- they hoped they would never relapse.

They don’t want to have the reputation of people that resort to these things [conniving- etc.]

Yet- over the years- some have found themselves back there again.

And many of their experiences when they get to the end of the rope- is to curse God and try to walk away.

Yet Charlie has learned that you can’t.

They too bare a cross- of being seen as someone who is no good.

Someone you can never trust.

They identify with the figures in the bible who also were rejected because of real character flaws.

We also see the Josephs [who Charlie brought up] who for no cause of their own- also wound up at the ‘wrong end of the stick’.

Yet these men learned mercy- grace- they saw that what others meant for evil ‘God meant for good’.

When I met Charlie and his son many years ago- I saw the calling of God on them.

Especially his son who we call ‘Little Charlie’.

I actually have some good talks with little Charlie these past few months.

Big Charlie’s brother is a minister- in the Reformed faith.

When I first spoke to them over the years- I realized how they saw the particular aspects of scripture- from this point of view.

Sovereignty- Predestination- God’s choosing of us.

And for those who have read my teachings for a while- I am not totally in disagreement with them.

But I also avoid the more stringent view of some of the classical Reformed thinkers.

All in all- I think this message was good- to be able to hear it straight from the mouth of a person who has gone thru many hard times in life.

God uses the meek of the earth to speak to us.

Today- hopefully- you will hear.

ADAM AND CHRIST- I thought I wrote on this before- but I can’t find it [search for Adam in my past teaching- too many]

So- I’ll teach it right now.

The New Testament refers to Jesus as the last Adam.

The apostle Paul teaches about this in Romans and Corinthians.

In Romans he says ‘as sin came into the world thru one man [Adam] so the free gift of righteousness comes to us thru Christ’-

Romans 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

Paul also says [I copied the verse below]] that Eve was deceived and Adam was not deceived- when they sinned in the garden.

Ok- Then why did Adam sin- disobey God?

He loved the bride so much [Eve] that he willingly walked away from the presence of God- to be with his bride.

Jesus never sinned [I corrected that above too] but at the Cross- he bore the penalty of sin- which was separation from God for the sins of man.

Why did he do this?

Because he loved the bride- the church- and in doing this he ‘walked away’ from God's presence [in obedience- not disobedience] and he did this for the love of his bride- the church.

So- in a nutshell this is one way that Christ identifies as the last Adam.

There are other pictures/types as well- but this is what we spoke about on today’s video-

Here are a few verses on Adam and Christ [more below]

Romans 5:12

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Romans 5:15

But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Romans 5:16

And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

1 Corinthians 15:45

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

NOTES [Corrections]

I debated about posting this video- because there are doctrinal ‘mistakes’ that my friend made.

But I decided to post it- and simply clarify those points.

1- Charlie does say ‘God broke his own law’- now- God never broke his law- but what I think my friend was referring to was Jesus becoming sin for us

2 Corinthians 5:21

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

 

It’s obviously not the same thing- but when Jesus took the sins of the world upon him- he was forsaken of God the Father- and was the substitute for us- Jesus indeed suffered the death of a sinner- though he never sinned.

Charlie talked about Adam and Eve- and I have mentioned some of what he brought up before- How Adam went into the rebellion against God- knowing what he was doing.

Eve was actually deceived 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

I do see a type- symbol of Christ in this.

Jesus loved the bride [us] so much- that he took the penalty of sin- was separated from God when he died for us- and he did this so he could ‘be with his wife’- meaning he did his so we could be redeemed.

2- I ‘subtly’ corrected this on video- Lucifer is called ‘son of the morning’ [Verse below] Jesus is the morning star.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isaiah 14

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

 

PAST TEACHING [verses below]

These bible books are quoted on today’s video- here are my complete studies on them-

https://ccoutreach87.com/john-complete-links-added/

https://ccoutreach87.com/acts/

https://ccoutreach87.com/romans-updated-2015/ [Read chapter 5 and 6 and my commentary on them for more teaching on Jesus as the Last Adam]

https://ccoutreach87.com/1st-2nd-corinthians/ [Read my commentary on chapter 15 about Adam and Christ]

Here’s a book I wrote years ago- it fits as well-

https://ccoutreach87.com/house-of-prayer-or-den-of-thieves/

This too- [Overblog- see the rest here- https://ccoutreach87.com/2017/03/12/big-charlie/ ]

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